The Delmar Loop: Retail

Discuss new retail, dining, business and residential projects within St. Louis County, including Chesterfield, Riverport, Earth City, Westport and more.
^Original plans called for 4500 sq. ft. of ground floor retail.
I don't see any of these as a big deal. Surely there were already better noodles in the loop than Noodles and Co. But then I've gotten the impression both of those chains are struggling anyway. (I've seen others close elsewhere, even if they were in good locations.) Seoul Taco too is a chain. It's just newer and hipper. (And doubtless much smaller.) And if there were ever a market where Coldstone (or Krispy Kreme for that matter) would flop like a dead fish, it would be this one. There are just so very very many local options that are just so much better. I don't recall noticing any real lack of life in the loop when I was last there . . . day before yesterday. Quite the opposite in fact. The place is even more happening now than it was a quarter century ago, when it was already pretty darn hip.
As long as the retail space is filled in a relatively timely manner, I don't necessarily see the big deal. Locally owned restaurants and businesses are far more likely to spend a large share of their money in the region, where chains extract all the value they can for shareholders. Not saying that eating at a chain restaurant is always bad, but local restaurants provide a pretty clear economic benefit.
framer wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:17 pm
Once again, my neighbors on Nextdoor are going to be interpreting these closings as one of the signs of The Apocalypse.
next door in u-city is far less entertaining than the dogtown facebook page was (where i moved from). i really dont follow it.

any more news on the chain brewpub in the loop?
Mods: This thread should be moved to the Restaurant, Retail and Business Development thread.
Glad to see this finally happening.

StlToday - Erker's to launch Delmar Loop eyeglass factory, store in April

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 2346d.html
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Just posted on Next Door by a U City Councilman:

"...there is a micro brewery slated to open in the Delmar Loop where Sole and Blues used to occupy a spot. That clothing business is going on the old Subway location. The micro brewery owns 15 operations around the country but I have not gotten a name yet..."
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HopCat
HopCat, the Michigan-based craft beer-focused concept that's taken the Midwest by storm, plans to open in the Delmar Loop later this year — bringing 80 taps and seating for 345 people, including a large beer garden.

Construction on the site, at 6317 Delmar Boulevard, is already underway. The sizable double storefront was previously home to Sole and Blues, twin clothing and footwear concepts that headed to a smaller spot on the west end of the Loop earlier this year.

In a press release this morning, HopCat said it would be investing $2.5 million in the project, including extensive renovations to create a large beer garden in the rear of the space. That outdoor area alone is expected to seat 100 guests; a smaller area out front will also include sidewalk seating.

read more
http://www.riverfronttimes.com/foodblog ... elmar-loop
^ i'm sure 3 Kings is thrilled.
Cicero's is no longer doing live music. Not sure what's up with the restaurant:

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/musicbl ... s-saturday
^ my guess is too many competing venues + the place hasn't been updated ever.

that or the kids wanna divest and move somewhere "cool".

i saw a couple of good shows at Cicero's back in the day, and we used to go to hip hop night in high school. but i haven't been there in over 15 years and was never crazy about the food.
framer wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:51 pm
Cicero's is no longer doing live music. Not sure what's up with the restaurant:

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/musicbl ... s-saturday
It all is closing. A new facebook post also lists the restaurant.

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... close.html
UNLESS - you want to buy it! For Sale as stated in the article. The mom/pop both have passed away in the past year and the family is not interested in continuing the restaurant business.

Has nothing to do with Loop traffic, streetcar or business.
matguy70 wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:34 am

Has nothing to do with Loop traffic, streetcar or business.
Tell that to my neighbors on NextDoor. They're always seeing signs of the Loop Apocalypse.
it's a great space in a great location. just needs some freshening up. it won't be empty for long.
matguy70 wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:34 am

Has nothing to do with Loop traffic, streetcar or business.
Tell that to my neighbors on NextDoor. They're always seeing signs of the Loop Apocalypse.
Never Hear of NextDoor
^Free social media site geared towards individual neighborhoods. People get on there to kvetch about local issues and alert neighbors to suspicious activity etc. It can be pretty useful, but sometimes the arguments can get pretty nasty.

Started in San Francisco, but is now nationwide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nextdoor
Not sure if this was announced before, but the shuttered Fifth/Third Bank at 6680 Delmar will be reopening as a Regions Bank.
i'd like to see something happen with the ciceros location, soon. the far western end of the loop has been a bit lacking of late. even though ciceros wasnt exactly in its prime at the end it was a good anchor for the far end of the loop.

some kind of new americanish spot with elevated tavern fare and some decent taps/huge bar would be fine. even like a location of the post might do really well.

that space is going to need some work to freshen up, though...

i did a quick search and looks like the property listing has been pulled from loopnet...not sure what that means.
McArthur's Bakery closed a few weeks ago, so that space is available too:

http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/d ... 90464.html
100 years ago - the west end of the Delmar Loop in 1918:
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KSDK - Pizza restaurant to close its doors on Delmar Loop

http://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/ ... -531588789
From the KSDK article: "The Delmar Loop has seen several restaurants close in the last few months, including Snarf’s – which relocated out of the area."

Snarf's newest location is 5 blocks away. It's definitely not in the Loop, but "out of the area" is a bit of a stretch.

Nonetheless, unfortunate to see another business go. And, not that it would have made a difference in this instance, but the damn trolley really needs to get up and running. It's a farce and embarrassment at this point.
wabash wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:13 pm
From the KSDK article: "The Delmar Loop has seen several restaurants close in the last few months, including Snarf’s – which relocated out of the area."

Snarf's newest location is 5 blocks away. It's definitely not in the Loop, but "out of the area" is a bit of a stretch.
Is this the location on Skinker? I'm pretty sure both locations were open simultaneously for a year or two. I always thought it was weird how close they were.