Better Together...or not

Discuss new retail, dining, business and residential projects within St. Louis County, including Chesterfield, Riverport, Earth City, Westport and more.
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KMOV - Vinita Park, Vinita Terrace hoping to be approved for consolidation

http://www.kmov.com/story/32758988/vini ... solidation
Baby steps. Of course we have to have a study, before maybe doing the obvious.

KMOX - St. Louis County Municipalities Consider Joint Fire Departments

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2016/08/16/ ... partments/
Baby steps


StlToday - Several municipal courts in St. Louis County to consolidate

Several municipal courts in St. Louis County are consolidating, in a program announced today by the Missouri Supreme Court.

Municipal operations from Charlack, Northwoods and Vinita Park have consolidated into the St. Ann municipal division (now called the St. Ann Consolidated Municipal Courts, or CMC).


http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... c00d2.html
Baby steps

Stltoday - Kirkwood to take over fire, EMS dispatching for Des Peres

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... f1ce9.html
It would be nice if there was one place chronicling all these baby steps, so someone can get a sense of all that's been done. It seems we're starting to get news more frequently, I get a sense momentum is picking up. The municipal league batting around the idea of rolling out the welcome mat for the city is pretty big.

I wonder how long it'll be before we see something like the 9 borough plan put up for a vote. Getting the city back in the county will most likely need to happen before that.
You would think Bettertogether or STLStrong would have a section on their websites, I don't see one but a list of updates showing the benefits in small phases would give people a better idea on how it benefits the region
Des Peres was contracting to the county previously, I think? So this isn't really a consolidation.
Vinitas merge! Passed big time.
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VINITA PARK - PROPOSITION 2
**MUNICIPAL CONSOLIDATION**
(Vote for ) 1
(WITH 4 OF 4 COUNTED)
YES . . . . . . . . . . . . 563 77.34
NO. . . . . . . . . . . . . 165 22.66

VINITA TERRACE - PROPOSITION 1
**MUNICIPAL CONSOLIDATION**
(Vote for ) 1
(WITH 1 OF 1 COUNTED)
YES . . . . . . . . . . . . 115 87.12
NO. . . . . . . . . . . . . 17 12.88
The city-county re-entry/merger/consolidation talk seems to have cooled off lately. Does anybody know of any activity behind the scenes? Does anyone know of the long term strategies of the powers that be or stakeholders involed? Just curious, I'd like to see the conversation continue.
LordOfLindenwoodPark wrote:
The city-county re-entry/merger/consolidation talk seems to have cooled off lately. Does anybody know of any activity behind the scenes? Does anyone know of the long term strategies of the powers that be or stakeholders involed? Just curious, I'd like to see the conversation continue.


Some say those popped up just to get Daly out of the mayoral race. His office would be eliminated if the city was a county muni.
StlToday - Muni courts: Many reforms in effect but poor still feel pinch

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 070fa.html
Another example of how development patterns that force everyone to drive backfires and makes being poor all that harder. And then it synergizes with fragmentation.

StlToday - Report looks at national impact of municipal court fines and fees on poor, people of color
North St. Louis County resident Charles Davis, 38, is among those who have experienced firsthand the hardships associated with debt from fines and municipal court fees. In 2002, Davis said he started receiving multiple tickets from an officer when leaving his Hanley Crossing apartment to go to work in St. Peters.

“All together, he probably gave me 25 tickets,” Davis said, for violations such as driving without insurance or vehicle registration, costs he said he couldn’t afford with a baby on the way and working a job that paid $9 an hour.

Eventually, Davis said he received several more tickets in other municipalities, his drivers license was revoked and he ended up spending a month in jail for driving without one. Davis, who believes he has warrants in at least 15 municipalities in St. Louis County, attributes some of the traffic stops he experienced to racial profiling.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 64ee6.html
More tax dollars being spent to promote more job sprawl.

Stl Today - Wildwood adds economic development manager position

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metr ... 253dd.html
Stl American - Jennings, moving past impeachment, elects new mayor in Yolanda Austin
In our reporting last week on the April 4 municipal general elections, we did not cover every election, which is, indeed, impossible in the St. Louis metropolitan area. In St. Louis County alone, there were elections in 81 municipalities, 17 school districts, 12 fire districts and a community college district. St. Louis County had 499 candidates file for 267 different offices, as well as 22 different ballot propositions. No news organization in St. Louis has adequate news staff to cover all of these elections intelligently – and that’s just St. Louis County. But there was some more news of interest in municipal elections that needs reporting.
http://www.stlamerican.com/news/politic ... c1479.html
For improved government efficiency, how about a new state law with these provisions:

All counties in Missouri larger than 500,000 population, in which more than half the population live in incorporated towns, shall meet the following requirements:
1. No town may be smaller in population that 30,000 persons, after 5 years from the approval of this law.
2. Towns smaller than 30,000 must consolidate with one or more neighboring towns or form new or consolidated towns of at least 30,000 people within 5 years of approval of this law.
3. Any Towns of the County still under 30,000 after 5 years from approval of this law shall be added to an existing neighboring town by vote of the County Council within 1 year.
4. Any portions of the County not annexed into an existing town after 5 years from approval of this law shall be added to an existing neighboring town by vote of the County Council within 1 year.

Towns would be free to determine how and with whom they wish to merge in the first 5 years of this law. After that, any town or unincorporated area not in a town of at least 30,000 people would be added to one by the County Council. There are currently 5 towns in St. Louis County that are 30K or larger: Ballwin, U City, Wildwood, Florissant, Chesterfield, and Oakville.
BTW, don't think that this excellent letter slipped by us: :wink:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/ma ... e83e3.html
framer wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:39 pm
BTW, don't think that this excellent letter slipped by us: :wink:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/ma ... e83e3.html
Oh, uh, yes. I just assumed nobody reads letters-to-the-editor except me. Or checks to see who wrote them. You caught me. Hope I didn't sound angry, but I was a little.
gary kreie wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:20 pm
Ballwin, U City, Wildwood, Florissant, Chesterfield, and Oakville.
Oakville isn't a municipality.
quincunx wrote:
gary kreie wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:20 pm
Ballwin, U City, Wildwood, Florissant, Chesterfield, and Oakville.
Oakville isn't a municipality.

Wikipedia lists it as a Census Designated Place with a population of 36,000. So it could incorporate and meet the 30k requirement.


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gary kreie wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:30 pm
I just assumed nobody reads letters-to-the-editor except me. Or checks to see who wrote them.
RIP Harvey Meyer.

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