The Great Rivers Greenway District

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http://www.greatrivers.info/Default.aspx



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh9IN2e8Ods



I was just curious what everyone thought of this project and how its turning out?

i think it's a great program that has actual interest in all parts of the region and the best part is that it has steady funding from all over as well. there is a plan, well documented, and implemented. all in all i give this one an A+ for st louis.

A great example of how the region can be so great if we just work as a unit and not a fractured bureaucracy.

Has any of you use of the completed portions yet?

I have. kromers, if you're a cyclist inquiring as for a great run, then it certainly is. I'd recommend the North Riverfront ride to the Chain of Rocks Bridge.



The whole project is paid for by a fraction of a cent from a sales tax. From it, an amazing number of reuse development is coming into being. It is one of the best things going for the region involving Quality of Life improvements, and for how tax dollars should be allocated.



If we have old rail lines around town, I say they should get recast with either light rail or a bike path. Guess which is cheaper?

Great Rivers is a fantastic program. They've done wonders for recreation in all parts of the St. Louis area.



I'm on the River de Peres Trail almost every sunday. Can't wait until the extension is finished.

Framer wrote:
Great Rivers is a fantastic program. They've done wonders for recreation in all parts of the St. Louis area.



I'm on the River de Peres Trail almost every sunday. Can't wait until the extension is finished.




When completely finished will this St. Louis' answer to the Forest Preserves in the Chicago area?

kromers451 wrote:
When completely finished will this St. Louis' answer to the Forest Preserves in the Chicago area?




These will be something else entirely -- something unique to St. Louis.

Work has begun on the River des Peres bike trail extension, and parts of it are already under water. Makes you wonder why they didn't keep the trail on the high ground, which is still high and dry. Other than that, it looks like it should be quite nice, with stone entrance markers, a couple of overlooks, etc.

McKinley bridge is my favorite. Urban explorers should park in Old North and take Branch Street down to the trail.

Makes you wonder why they didn't keep the trail on the high ground, which is still high and dry.




Because a bike trail is a great use for a piece of land infrequently flooded. Higher and dryer ground has higher uses.

^Well, the particular stretch I'm talking about is a narrow shelf of about 20 or 30 feet, which runs between the River and the street. It doesn't really have any other possible uses. There's an existing levee which they could have put the trail on top of, but instead they ran it on lower ground on the river side.



But, like you say, the flooding is an infrequent occurence, so no big deal, really.

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They have done a wonderful job with this bridge in Kirkwood that spans I-44. It was really an eyesore prior to this new paint. This appears to be the northern tip of the Grant trail.



see map here

http://www.bikestlouis.org/flash/bikeMap.html

Just about everything they do is top notch. This bridge should draw a lot of attention to the trail. I look forward to the trail extension from I-55 to Alabama in south city. I believe construction is set to start in 2010.

That is very nice looking. I am glad to see the detailed paint work.
Clayton BOA minutes

Resolution – To approve a cooperative agreement with Great Rivers Greenway. (Res. No. 10-04)
§ Since 2004, Clayton has been actively involved in the conceptual planning process to build a greenway in St. Louis County connecting Forest Park and Creve Coeur Park . On February 28, 2006, the Board of Aldermen passed a resolution in support of the final plan which included the Shaw Park connection and now GRG is ready to proceed with the first phase of the construction.
The decision to give the 13th casino license to Cape Girardeau opens the door for Great Rivers Greenway to buy an additional 12 acres of land near the Chain of Rocks bridge (P-D link):
Another winner is Great Rivers Greenway.

The agency, which plans bike trails in the region, owns eight of the 20 acres where the Komans wanted to build their casino. Earlier this year, they reached a deal with the developers: If the Komans won a casino license, they would buy the land from Great Rivers and fund improvements to the bike trail along the Old Chain of Rocks Bridge. If the license went elsewhere, the Komans would sell Great Rivers the 12 acres they own, at a below-market rate, and Great Rivers would fund the improvements itself.

Now that the decision is in, the agency can buy the land, with the deal likely to close in early 2011, said executive director Susan Trautman.

"We have a commitment to purchase it. We have an agreed-upon price," she said. "We're happy about it. The idea was to reach the best possible outcome for the public, and I think there are a lot of people who will be pleased with this."
Elliot Davis on Fox 2 recently did one of his "You Paid For It" segments on the $1 million dollar in federal dollars that Metro received to extend the Great Rivers Greenway downtown. He interviewed John Nations, who I think handled the situation great. Most surprisingly, check out the positive comments being left on Fox about expanding the bike trail with federal dollars. I'm still in disbelief!

http://www.fox2now.com/ktvi-ypfi-bike-trail-20110214,0,2775210.story
bchao524 wrote:
Elliot Davis on Fox 2 recently did one of his "You Paid For It" segments on the $1 million dollar in federal dollars that Metro received to extend the Great Rivers Greenway downtown. He interviewed John Nations, who I think handled the situation great. Most surprisingly, check out the positive comments being left on Fox about expanding the bike trail with federal dollars. I'm still in disbelief!

http://www.fox2now.com/ktvi-ypfi-bike-trail-20110214,0,2775210.story



Does anyone else want to knock Davis upside his head with a sockem bopper after watching that? :roll:
^ I wish he'd go after bigger issues by pressing mayors of small municipalities why they're needed. Or TIF wars within the region. He does a good job at making people look bad but the issues he takes up are small potatoes. He should work his way through however many small munis he needs to over the course of a month or two. That would be nice to see.
arch_genesis wrote:
^ I wish he'd go after bigger issues by pressing mayors of small municipalities why they're needed. Or TIF wars within the region. He does a good job at making people look bad but the issues he takes up are small potatoes. He should work his way through however many small munis he needs to over the course of a month or two. That would be nice to see.


My biggest complaint is that he was acting like a (fill in the blank) and was projecting an agenda.

Should he not just say what we are paying for and let the audience decide, instead of imparting some propaganda?

This is why I do not watch the news and only skim the paper.

Its just like the media being all over crime in STL when it has actually been down. Yet I constantly here people claiming its gotten worse. Thats just because they believe everything they hear on the news and that unfortunately makes them often misinformed.

(Stepping down from the soapbox now)

I do agree that it would be better if he did as you suggested.
Elliot Davis really screwed the pooch on this one. John Nations shone brightly.

Full disclosure: I ride this trail and really enjoy it.
gone corporate wrote:
Elliot Davis really screwed the pooch on this one. John Nations shone brightly.

Full disclosure: I ride this trail and really enjoy it.


At the end of the day I think the region will benefit with John Nations where he is at. Unless I'm mistaken on the relationship, having Metro's head speak on behalf of the trail is a step forward.

The merits of the Great Rivers Greenway District stand on their own and I think if voters where given a chance to vote on more funding they would follow throw just as they did with Prop A. It truly provides a framework for highlighting the geographic strengths of the regions rivers while providing a quality of life infrastructure that a large part of the population uses. For me, before moving, it was runs up and down Des Peres River Greenway.
Design work on another expansion of the Great Rivers Greenway is in the works from River Des Peres to Carondelet Park, right along the train tracks at Loughborough Commons and the YMCA Rec Plex. They are seeking public input next week:

You are invited to attend a neighborhood meeting on Thursday, September 29,
between 5:00 and 7:30 pm, conducted at the Rec Complex in Carondelet Park
(YMCA at 930 Holly Hills Drive) to discuss this project.
The neighborhood meeting will be an open house style meeting where you can ask questions
and talk directly to representatives from GRG and the trail engineers, TranSystems. No formal
presentation will be made, so come by when it is convenient for you. Your feedback and input
on the project is important to us. We are in the preliminary design stage but we do have an
alignment selected.
If you are unable to attend the meeting, you can contact us through our website
http://www.grgstl.org,


http://www.grgstl.org/projects/river-des-peres-greenway-carondelet-connector.aspx

What an asset for the city!
Where did you find out about this? I don't see any information posted anywhere on GRG's website about this public meeting.

For the Mississippi River Greenway from downtown to River des Peres, I asked for digital copies of the public meeting materials both at the meeting and via the website contact form. I have yet to receive a response from GRG. Frustrating.