I'm just wondering how many more decades we have to wait for Drury to stop banking their land and actually build something?
stlien wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:13 pm
Just curious, why did the developer apply for a building permit before having all the financing in place?
I'd like to know how in 4 days we went from "it's a go!" to "we don't have enough money!"
Wasn't it rumored back in the day that the Planet Hollywood on Laclede's Landing was a surprising moneymaker and on a dollars per sq ft basis it was one of the best restaurants in the chain?
St.Louis1764 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:57 pm
I had thought about the Millennium Hotel as a possible Hard Rock hotel the other day.. I think Hard Rock should and stay downtown
Doubt it. According to their website the only non casino locations Hard Rock Hotels currently has are San Diego and Orlando. And they closed Chicago last year.
I thought Hard Rock wasn't doing anymore non-casino hotels and that's why they closed the one on Michigan Ave in Chicago after less than a decade?
How about hosting some pre season NBA games? I think theres a lot more basketball fans than most people would guess & sounds like the people/experts that don't think St.Louis is a honorable city for the NBA don't like St.Louis.. I'm not sure what makes the other cities more desirable or extinguisha...
chaifetz10 wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 7:33 am
Yeah, that’s just click bait. Zero chance that some of those teams would move with the brand new arenas that were just built.
You are correct in that some of those are near ludicrous. But since they didn't list St. Louis as a destination it means we're not even on the radar.
Jarrett Sutton @JarrettTSutton NBA Executive: “Jarrett, going to be real honest with you, Kansas City will get an NBA team at some point. It’s a real thing I’ve heard from multiple sources. Just a matter of time. Seattle and KC to me are most valuable markets for league expansion when it makes sense...
8 NBA Teams That Could Relocate And 8 Possible Destinations
https://www.thesportster.com/basketball ... tinations/

St. Louis is not one of the 8 possible landing spots.
Where have I heard this before? The Trouble With the Memphis Airport: No Crowds The spacious terminal built for when the Tennessee city was a bustling air travel hub has become a half-deserted white elephant that the airport is spending millions to shrink. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/23/us/memph...
Since Pro Sports are finished in this town I don't know why we are talking any more. :roll:

Are there any weak/struggling NBA teams that are looking to move or want new arenas and might not get them? Wasn't Louisville looking to poach someone?
Ok, took that off topic but at least stayed in the realm of pro sports. Add on question. Will Taylor family of Enterprise ever go all in on a pro sports franchise. The type of all in that goes beyond being an ownership group, or spend a couple million to put the name on a stadium but buy an NBA and...
I don't think St. Louis can be a 4 sports town as long as the Cardinals are the monsters they are. You look at other midsized cities with 4 pro teams and none of them have a baseball team that draws like ours. 2017 MLB attendance. St. Louis: 3.5 million attendance (2.8 million metro area pop) Minnes...
(We did almost lose the Cardinals to Milwaukee though actually) Are we seriously talking about something that happened about 75 years ago because of unstable (and as it turned out criminal) ownership at a time when we would have still had another team to fall back on? Yes. Because apparently we're ...
All of this being said, I honestly believe STL is a 3 sport town. We should have NFL or NBA, MLS possibly. When it comes to the BIG 4, we should have 3. That is a fact and all of this 2-sport town narrative is BS IMO. That narrative is a case of the same old-same old STL low self-esteem thing. Stan...
Pro Sports are finished in this town. We're entering the golden age of St. Louis basketball, emerging as a real hotbed, and we're an afterthought for the NBA. Oh and Seattle is definitely getting both NBA and NHL. As far as KC goes, the NBA is a star driven league and isn't afraid of smaller market...
9ine Runner wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm
Pro Sports are finished in this town.
So the Cardinals and Blues are going to leave? Got ya.
The NBA may miss the boat in Seattle since it looks like the NHL is winning that race hands down. https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2018/03/01/nhl-seattle-season-ticket-drive-reaches-25k-sold-in-one-hour/ Plus while not at the same level as St. Louis' anger at the NFL, a number of people are pissed at the N...
Schnucks can't squat on it because they don't own it and Brixmor won't lease it to them unless they're going to open for business. I wasn't sure what you meant when you said Schnucks was poking around. If that was for a store or for Desco to buy it and then bank. Because they have history of it.
https://www.brixmor.com/ The three slides on their main page cycle between Kroger, TJ Maxx and Whole Foods. https://properties.brixmor.com/cre/commercial-real-estate-listings/missouri Their for lease page only lists the 3 side parcels to the Maplewood Shop n Save that they never seemed to be in a r...
Brixmor is the owner, so slim chance they sell it and even less chance they develop it into something other than its current form, but you never know. Considering the momentum that area has had the past 5-10 years, I don't think they'll have a problem filling it with another big retailer. Like what...
wabash wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 4:30 pm
^^Nancy, what makes you think that?
Used to live in the neighborhood.
I hate to keep being Negative Nancy: but even with changes its still not going to get built.
Has Southwest ever had a nonstop between STL and JAX? I always thought it was American that had one that wasn't every day of the week and they got rid of it like 5 or 6 years ago.

The two times I've gone to Jacksonville, I've flown to MCO and driven up.
framer wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 11:45 am
Wow. A 12 year old bump! Could be a record.
I don't know what I'm more amazed with. That this property has sat banked for so long or that the building and grounds still looks so good. Whoever owns it is spending a decent amount on maintenance.