I really wish Southwest would find a codeshare partner for flights to Europe. That would help us out a lot. The problem is that the Southwest pilots' contract has very strong control over any codesharing Southwest would want to do -- they have to sign off on each and every codeshare agreement. Perh...
matguy70 wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:43 pm
In 1999 TWA was to add Tokyo to STL. Here's the article:
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/sto ... tory6.html
If that route ever started, it would have been a massive flop -- even without the Karabu agreement.
I've actually known people to drive from KC or Nashville to fly out of St. Louis, if you can believe it. While I'm sure there are a *few* people who would do something like this, there will in no way be enough people to do so which would justify starting a new route. The "hassle" of making a connec...
Shouldn't Lufthansa be able to fill planes even easier than BA, what with all the German-owned companies in the STL metro? No -- London is the easiest city to get international air service from the US due to geography. People will happily fly STL-LHR-FRA, but not STL-FRA-LHR. Germany requires backt...
STL also has a modern and renovated airline lounge, while BNA has two dated and often closed lounges for American and Delta. This is not true. BNA has lounges for both AA and DL. DL has recently renovated most if not all of their lounges. AA has just begun to do the same - and their current lounge ...
FYI - Frontier has loaded their schedules for November onward, but with (I believe) some frequency reductions:

DEN 1x/daily
LAS 1x/daily
MCO 11x/weekly
CUN 1x/daily
RSW 3x/weekly
dweebe wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:37 pm
Doubling would put us with big cities. Go to $30/day and then see what happens: increase by $5 until there's enough hourly. IIRC the highest I've seen is like mid $50's/day at Midway and O'Hare. But LAX is only $30.
O'Hare is $74/day.
symphonicpoet wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:41 am
But perhaps not from St. Louis directly?
From STL.

http://www.departedflights.com/TWSTLhub.html
pdm_ad wrote:
Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:15 pm
TW had routes to SMF, JAX, BDL, ORF but not RIC and I believe you are correct about WN not having nonstops from STL to those markets.
Incorrect, TWA started service to RIC in 1999.
Tomorrow at 4:25PM, I'm flying from Chicago to Zagreb Croatia (via Madrid) for $607 round trip with Iberia Airlines. i also booked separate a flight from STL to Chicago tomorrow morning at 9am for $205 round trip (on the way back i get into chicago at 8pm and praying i catch the 9:50PM flight from ...
Chalupas54 wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:35 pm
I have reason to believe we could see a large SW expansion out of STL on the 22nd.

My picks: Indianapolis, Sacramento, and Charlotte. Maybe even Jacksonville.
None of these are showing up on the Southwest route map as of this morning.
I'm interested to see how this plays out with Southwest and if they would be interested in becoming a self operator of Terminal II just for the fact that POTUS admin has made it clear that the Feds wants others to fund infrastructure but will take credit for it while pushing privatization hard. Thi...
The Hawaii and Anchorage comments were interesting but I don't think the MAX planes have the range to make it there from here do they? The 737 MAX variant that SWA is ordering has a maximum range 3500 miles -- which is no where near the range needed for HNL (over 4100). Interestingly ANC is under 3...
Something might be up with Frontier and their service to STL. In an OAG (airline schedule) filing, they are dropping STL-DEN from 2x daily to 1x daily in mid-August and then dropping service altogether in November. All service out of STL? All service to DEN, which is their main hub. I have a hard t...
Due to today's storms, I saw a that a flight aborted a landing and then diverted to Mid-America, then made a quick trip back to Lambert a short while later. Anybody have any idea how often diversions to Mid-America occur? Back in the TWA days, there was at least one flight which diverted to St. Lou...
Something might be up with Frontier and their service to STL. In an OAG (airline schedule) filing, they are dropping STL-DEN from 2x daily to 1x daily in mid-August and then dropping service altogether in November. All service out of STL? All service to DEN, which is their main hub. I have a hard t...
Something might be up with Frontier and their service to STL. In an OAG (airline schedule) filing, they are dropping STL-DEN from 2x daily to 1x daily in mid-August and then dropping service altogether in November.
Speaking of the old ambassadors club in C and the reactivation of C29 and C30, that got me wondering... how likely is it that Delta would move to C in order to open a sky club in the old ambassador's club space? Not likely at all. In 2011ish, Delta was looking at setting up a "SkyClub Lite" on the ...
Europe Flight: The news of the incentives is huge. I want to see if they also have revenue guarantees in place. Also, I believe they are pitching the route as a regional alternative to ORD or DFW. I would really not be surprised if there is some type of KC - STL joint pitch going on. The reason I s...
Speaking of the third floor, what is up there? I remember it vaguely as a kid but I think access is blocked off to it at the moment, right? Anyone have any pics? It's an old TWA Ambassadors Club. Before the club just after security was built, TWA operated two Ambassadors Clubs -- the one upstairs n...
Those comments make sense if the old customs is still usable. Lambert has specifically stated that T2 is our international arrivals area. I sincerely believe they will not reopen the C concourse FIS -- it is small, cramped and requires all passengers to go through TSA screening after customs & immi...
Oh my but that is exciting stuff! That doesn't leave very much closed in C. Just the four gates at the bitter end, which were always a bit quieter anyway as I recall. (The spacings are pretty darn tight.) Actually, there would be 7 more gates if C29 & C30 are reopened - C31. C33 & C35 on the south ...
Thanks Greg. That is what I thought but I wasn't sure. With them being used more I thought maybe they moved the wall beyond them. Have you been back there recently? Is it rough looking? It looks exactly like it did when TWA was here. It's a vast difference from the renovated parts of the concourse.
A couple questions for those of you that fly through C. I haven't been in it in years. How far is it opened to at the moment? I see gates 23/24 are occupied by Frontier/American. I gate map says 27/28 are usable but vacant. I am guessing they are used for overflow once in awhile, but are they open ...
I'd be curious to to see how the current origination numbers compare to Lambert at its peak (or at least pre-9/11 and/or pre- de-hubbing). During the Carl Icahn era (1986-1993), Lambert remained steady at 19-20 million passengers / year. Once Icahn left, TWA ramped up STL and Lambert passenger traf...